07.11.15 Survivor China - …With Cheeseburgers On Their Breath
The drama continues.
To win the reward of a cruise, food and comfortable sleep the tribe is again divided into two and are faced with the challenge of bouncing a ball on drums through an obstacle course - first team to get three balls into the bin wins. Erik, Frosti, Amanda and Courtney were the clear winners while the other group was drum-and-ball challenged.
Back at camp Peih Gee, who has managed to earn the title of Jean-Robert (not meant in a flattering way either), picks a fight with James. James will have none of it and Peih Gee is on a thin rope.
At the immunity challenge each member must stab zodiac symbol tiles in the order that Jeff calls them in. The twist - you don’t have to participate in the challenge, you can choose to sit out and eat. Courtney, Todd, Denise and James take the food and leave the others to compete. In the end Peih Gee wins (though James “won” 7 hamburgers so he might be called the real winner). The tribe has to choose which of the inner circle must be voted out and in the end Frosti is sent packing.
Topics:
- What’s love got to do with it?
- Is “hanging on” a legitimate strategy for Survivor?
Predictions:
| Item |
Marjorie |
Mike |
| Reward |
James |
Courtney |
| Immunity |
Peih Gee |
Erik |
| Voted Off |
Erik |
Peih Gee |
Thank you so much for your comments this week - they were awesome! Let us know your thoughts and picks this week also. To all who celebrate it Happy Thanksgiving - may many things happen to you to make you thankful.
Podcast: tcSURV071115.mp3
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OMG… when James sang that “Good Morning” song, I was dying!
My father-in-law sings the same song… (he usually wakes us up with it when we are visiting their house), and now it has invaded Survivor!
I was shocked when Peih Gee was accusing James of losing the challenge. What a little bee-yotch. I’d say “pot calling the kettle black”, but I guess that analogy is pretty lame considering we are talking about James here…
I’m very intrigued about the “business” that they need to take care of at the beginning of the next episode - and I’m disappointed that they didn’t even give us a HINT in the previews. Hmmm… was anyone missing in the scenes from next week?
Anyway…
One last comment…
GO TEAM GOTH!!!
{Amazing Race 12}
I have to say I HATE THIS SURVIVOR. And I have to wonder why you guys seem to like it.
Okay, lets go through the players…
Jamie - at least she tried to do something! You guys didn’t like her because of her maneuvers, throwing the challenge, the false idol, but at least she tried and was interesting. Okay, not THAT interesting, but more interesting than most of these other idiots.
Jean-Robert - a jerk, a big fat jerk. Made the most ridiculous pronouncements ever. ‘If you screw me I’ll hold you personally responsible and there’s no way you’ll win the million!’ HA! As if he could. An idiot that thinks he’s so smart that it’s impossible to be an idol unless HE knows about it. If an idol falls in the forest and Jean-Robert doesn’t hear it, does it really exist? At least he MIGHT make an interesting juror. We’ll see.
Frosti - DUMB, DUMB, DUMB! How dumb can you be? This guy goes to the other tribe and suddenly thinks he’s a part of them?!? HA! Won’t vote with his old tribe? Won’t even discuss possibilities with them?!? DUMB! In other words, just roll over and let the other tribe do whatever they want? What a pawn! He played the pawn perfectly. Until this week when he suddenly realizes he might be in trouble. DUH! He should have been taking care of business 2 weeks ago, not now. And you can put Sherea in this category too. DUMBER!
Peih-Gee - the most interesting thing going. At least she’s thinking! Trying! But alas, it will be for naught as soon as she loses.
Erik - considered such a nothing that the other tribe doesn’t care how long he sticks around. We can only hope it bites them in the ass.
Denise - obviously doesn’t get laid enough, cause she’s perfectly willing to roll over and get fucked! HEY STUPID - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Sheesh!
Amanda, Courtney, Todd - Hey, what do they care, they have a free ride to the final four. Uhhh, they SHOULD care because of…
James - strongest player AND has two idols. WHAT THE FUCK? Todd should be INSISTING he gives the one he LOANED to him BACK! Oh no, lets just let James get to the end. And like Todd said, everyone will say, ‘James played a great game, let’s give it to James.’ Why?? BORING. PG called him out. Good for her!
So what’s interesting about this Survivor. Other than my chance to RANT?? NOTHING! It’s all set up for those in power to stay in power. Interesting is a coup. The possible ‘coupers’ are running out of time and so is my interest in this show.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Boy.
Do I have a bone or two to pick with you guys.
Well, let’s just get into it:
1. Amanda’s Butt Blur. Girl needs to get some dignity and pull her damn shorts out of her ass. I would HATE HATE HATE to think it is overgrown bush causing this. Or - SWEET GOD FORBID - a tampon tail. I just hope that it gets fixed soon.
2. Mike. I still don’t see how you can even TOLERATE Courtney. You especially, Mike, because she acts like she’s a princess and that she is entitled to NOT WORK, NOT PARTICIPATE at challenges and still feels that she is entitled to reap all the rewards of such. A complete PRINCESS MENTALITY. And - Michael - you have talked about hating that characteristic in people more than you have talked about (a) your “ding-a-ling” (b) your fat (c) how you are not gay and how there’s “not anything wrong with that” or (d) the general lack of aerolas in this season. So, Michael, HOW IN THE HELL can you continue to like Skeletor’s Sickly Sister while she continues to act like she’s an entitled fucking princess?!?
3. Once again in this podcast, too much talk about Mike’s dick, the swinging thereof and the addition of a corsage is an image so grizzly I might never be able to recover from.
4. Mike, I hate to continue to ride you… but here’s another one: When you gave a shoutout to Todd and spoke to him directly starting with “Girlfriend,…” I just shook my head. It was a sad attempt at being “hip” to the gay community. It actually came across as a bit stereotypical and thus homophobic (which I know you’re not… good lordy, you tell us more times than I dare to count.) But when you try to “relate” to gays or blacks or anything other than cornfed white suburban midwesterners… you just come off very… um… er… whitebread cracker. My advice: make your point (which are usually very solid) but speak like yourself. Be whitey. You’re good at that.
5. When Todd spoke about the “fat kid inside” himself, it sounded to me as if he had once been fat as a kid. I could be wrong about that, but that’s the way it came off to me. Otherwise he would be just taking a shot at fat folks… and that seems very un-Todd-like.
6. I hate when SURVIVOR telegraphs someone’s win as they did this week with PG’s win. They kept saying “unless PG wins immunity” and such. Hell, by the time we go to the immunity challenge, we ALL KNEW she was going to win it, because the producers had forshadowed the HELL out of it!
7. The bouncing ball challenge was VERY FLAWED and could have EASILY been fixed to make it more fair. As it was they only needed two good “bouncers” to win. So OF COURSE Courtney didn’t do shit and STILL got rewarded. The challenge SHOULD HAVE BEEN: No more than 10 bounces by one person in a row, and EVERY PLAYER should have to bounce it at least ONCE before EACH gate. That way it takes the ENTIRE team to win. Much more fair that way. Once again, such a simple fix that the producers missed.
8. I like James quite a bit. He’s my favorite player (although I have a growing appreciation of Amanda’s play - more on that later)… HOWEVER… I agree with BrianAlt (and I’ve said it before)… the rest of the players are STUPID STUPID STUPID not to get rid of his idols now! Even if they are not trying to vote him off, they should at the VERY LEAST inform him that they are getting rid of his idols by voting for him - forcing him to use them up. But they could have blindsided him now TWO WEEKS IN A ROW and failed to do so. Eventually, they are going to come to some physical challenges and he will win them and get Individual Immunity. So he is going to WALK AWAY with it, if they don’t wise up soon. Stupid is as Stupid does.
Okay.
Here are the TWO BIG BONES I have with you two from this week:
9. Hanging On Strategy. I can accept that Margghey doesn’t LIKE that kind of strategy. BUT it has won SEVERAL Survivors so far (starting with Season 2 and Tina), so it IS a viable strategy.
HOWEVER … it is not because someone is actively USING that strategy so much as the other “good” players are IGNORING IT! They are the ones who quite clearly see people “hanging on” and yet do NOTHING about it. If they get screwed over by someone who just lasted the game out … it is their OWN FAULT for not voting the leeches out to begin with.
This has happened numerous times and will continue to happen as long as these so-called “good players” allow it to happen. Hence it would not even BE a strategy if other players played SMARTER and voted the hanger-ons OFF!
That being said… I think Amanda is playing a BRILLIANT combination of this strategy mixed with some strategic maneuvering as well. She is staying well UNDER THE RADAR (how many votes has she had cast against her… none!) while still making decisions (with Todd) and others about what to do. She makes her presence known in challenges, but not overly so. She plays hard without being a bully, a powerhouse, or a weakling. Other than her Bush Blur, she’s got everything going for her. I expect to see her in the finals.
Finally… the big one:
10. Frosti. I couldn’t believe my ears when you guys were talking so highly of him and what he said about the Cheeseburgers. Now, granted, Frosti is a likeable guy for the most part. He’s talented at challenges, a hard worker, and generally agreeable.
HOWEVER… maybe we’ve been watching two separate SURVIVOR programs… but the one I’ve been watching features a Frosti that is one of the worst winners and most cocky winners that I’ve seen in a while. He gloats and showboats after every win. I attribute this to his age for the most part. It’s very common for kids to act like that when they win. (Hey, even Gabby knows NOT to be a bad winner, right!?) But Frosti… gloats bigtime.
The good thing is that he only does it for a short while. It doesn’t linger into camp for too long, which is why he seems nicer than he acts at the challenges. But it caught up to him especially when he sold his soul to Skeletor’s Skinny Sister.
Hell, he was even a bad sport in his goodbye speech when he dissed on Courtney, Todd and Denise. It was typical of his immaturity and bad sportsmanship to do so (completely in character to the way he’s acted all along) and showed us how much better he felt he was than his competitors that OUTWITTED OUTLASTED and OUTPLAYED him. He still gave them no props and completely condescended to them.
This all came on the hills of him EATING A HUGE MEAL and then complaining when they other “team” ate cheeseburgers! (Except Courtney who ate both and proved how greedy she was as well as showing us again that she feels entitled to everything without paying the cost in any way!)
But Frosti said “Couldn’t they wait 12 more days?” WHAT THE FUCK!?! HE JUST ATE A HUGE CHICKEN MEAL!!!??? As James told PG in classic James Form:
“How dare you!”
What a hypocrit! Couldn’t HE wait another 12 days?! I guess not. I’m sure he ate a fine meal that night after he was VOTED OFF!
So, I feel (obviously) that you guys have WAY TOO MUCH like for the immature bile that Frosti was spewing forth… and I attribute it all to the fact that in some ways Frosti was indeed likeable and what he said could be misconstrued as funny, witty or at the very least entertaining. But at the heart of it all, Frosti was a young, cocky kid who got his ass handed to him when he thought he was superior to the “New York waitress, a male flight attendant and a lunch lady with a mullet.”
…
Okay.
By far the longest post I’ve ever laid down. Sorry… but in a way… not. Had to get all that out there. I usually agree with a lot of what you guys talk about with a minor quibble here and there … but this week… the whole Frosti thing drove me apeshit.
I’m better now.
Uhhhh Slappy — weren’t you guy who was bitching about a 55 minute long Armchair Kid Nation.
Just sayin’ — bud.
Now I’ll go back to reading your post — I’m about half way through it.
Few things…
Michael, you got me on the triva question. Not familiar with “you’ll be easily amused, man”. Though you said it was a classic comedy album. I could list a bunch, but maybe you could give a hint? the “man” sounds like something Cheech & Chong or George Carlin would say. Or maybe something 70s or politcal like Martin Mull or The First Family? I don’t like NOT knowing this stuff. Hint please!
I agree with Slappy about James’ two idols. Why are the rest of them NOT voting for him every week to use them up? Drives me crazy each episode.
The obvious “other business” at tribal council is a surprise elimination vote. They talked about “Courtney or Frosti” at camp. In the previews for next week, Courtney was the ONLY one not shown. I’m just sayin…
Tis true, Mikey boy. Brievity is the soul of wit.
Unfortunately me not too witty this week.
Doh!
God damn, I can’t spell.
Michael & Marjorie;
In honor of thanksgiving and my birthday could we have a dick free podcast?
Eating during the immunity challenge is a great strategy, especially for James. You need to look several moves ahead and energy at the end of the game is always important.
I didn’t like the knife aspect of the challenge as it reminded me of the only episode of “Pirate Master” I saw. I erased my tivo, but didn’t the cards have pictures of the animals on it - hence Michael’s Asian theory was pretty lame.
I, too, am torn on the do nothing strategy. I don’t think Denise can pull it off, though.
I’m still a big fan of the show and your podcast. Keep up the good work.
I’m listening to the podcast while walking this morning and yelling at Michael for his racial stereotyping. Jeeesh! The immunity challenge was about transfering verbal instruction to visual cue. Given the NAMES of animals in a certain order, find them on the table. The glyphs were a total red herring (as we say in the ARG* world) because the names were written on the tiles. Neither Peih Gee nor Frosti had any special advantage (unless they are both great at the game Simon). Although Peih Gee did mention she was good at Suduko.
Next topic - Denise. Have you noticed that people want to be friends with others who are good looking? And those of us who might be cosmetically challenged have to rely on personality? Poor Denise already had two strikes against her when she got to China. If she had any strategy, I think the editors might have shown some inkling of it earlier in the game. Instead, she was almost invisible and I think we didn’t even get a soundbite out of her until week 3. She has one quasi-ally right now, James. But I think he will keep playing the game and she’s off the jury very soon (cause he knows she would be a vote for him).
Ah, love & Survivor (didn’t I comment on that last week?)… Courtney is playing for jury votes (cause she knows she doesn’t have JR). Very easy for her to throw Frosti a vote in order to keep nice-nice with her alliance….it’s really looking like a James-Courtney-Todd-Amanda final four right now (and James can’t use the idol after that).
Amanda is playing the best game right now (with Todd doing the dirty work) at least as far as the editors are showing us. Previews after this week’s episode showed some Todd soundbites from before the merge (he has less facial hair AND was wearing a red buff) - like they didn’t think we wouldn’t notice????
Yes, on Turkey Day this year, we’ll be treated to the clipshow “with some never-before-seen-footage”…but I doubt it will gives us a “gasp” of revelation.
My picks (for the real episode): Reward - James, Immunity - Amanda, Voted Out: Peih Gee
*ARG = Alternate Reality Game
SMG - If you can ever record your father-in-law singing that song, send it to me and I’ll blast it to wake everyone up one Saturday morning - hmmmm, wonder how loud Mike will yell and how many cuss words will spew out :- )
BrianAlt - I’m surprised to hear you don’t like this season. Though your observations about all the players are sure hilarious! Please keep watching just so we can hear more!
Slapidy- I was looking for you to end your post - Fuck Marji and Mike! I agree with your point that why should we be mad only at those who use the hanging-on strategy - the others are letting her. But I have to stand my ground on Frosti. Yes, he eat a meal the day (or could be two days) before but do did others. Plus - to give up the chance of getting immunity for food - STUPID!!! Other than James - they continue to let him have the two idols - why not eat so he can keep up his strength. Todd should ask for one of the idols back and if James doesn’t give it to him vote him out at tribal so he has to give them up, though that makes Todd vulnerable…..
Joe - I’ll push for Mike to give another hint - I’m counting on your help on this one.
wyo - we’ll try to honor your request for a dick-free show next week. What does wyo stand for?
konamouse - will the “never before seen footage” include Courtney working?
Off to watch Amazing Race - dang, I wish we had more time for a podcast about that!!
Yeah, I think they are going to split the group up into two separate tribes. Plus, the reward does seem to be a “clean-up” one… as James’ head is all newly shaven as well in the previews.
Go figure.
And don’t worry, Margerrey, I’ve calmed down now.
Plus I’m sober.
That helps.
“konamouse - will the “never before seen footage” include Courtney working?”
Uhm…I thought we didn’t do spoilers here.
Marji, I think it’s because you like James and I think as his power has grown I think he’s grown to be a jerk.
Marji, I think it’s because you like James and I think as his power has grown he’s grown to be a jerk.
Just in case you missed it:
BrianAlt Says:
Marji, I think it’s because you like James and I think as his power has grown he’s grown to be a jerk.
:)
The only person not seen in last week’s preview and tonight’s previews is Denise. Because she is at least 2 votes safe in her alliance, I think we have an ad-hoc immunity challenge at tribal council and she is gone. I may be wrong, but we watched it in slo-mo on the DVR tonight.
Tonight was a recap show but I was hoping that they would let us in on the thing they left us hanging with last week…last week’s show really for some reason was not easy for me to think up ideas to talk about. I guess I am waiting to see what is going to happen with the Power Group situation. I think Peih Gee made a horrible mistake in trying to get under James’ skin. For one he has two idols and some power in the game and two, could well be a power at challenges. Hasn’t been of late, but he has the physical strength to do so. Amanda is for me the real star out of them all except for maybe Todd and James. She has a good sense of what is going on around her and is great at challenges. I am sad to see Frosti go on one level, but on another level, were he and Courtney not split up they could have relied on the other to skate to the top. Out of them all I am not a big fan of hers. Tonight the teaser showed Amanda talking to Peih Gee, so maybe Peih Gee is getting an in. Maybe through Erik as she (Amanda) has eyes for him? Great blogs guys! Keep them up! 1000 kudos!!
Not bad for a recap - there was lots of stuff we didn’t get to see during the season. Nothing that changed any one’s perceptions of alliances or work ethic (Margie is probably still drooling over all the James footage).
There was NOTHING in tonight’s previews except some snippet of a conversation between Amanda & Peih Gee - I think that is just misdirection or Amanda is trying to use Peih Gee - I’m sure she is stuck to the hip with Todd to the end (cause she’ll win if up against him in the final two). Previews sort of sucked. Probably have better teasers with commercials next week.
’squeek’
P.S. Nope, didn’t see Courtney do any work.
Marji,
wyo is for Wyoming. I’m trying to be the first Wyomingite to be on the show. 8 videotapes sent in already, so I’m not holding my breath. Apparently there is no shortage of middle aged white guys trying to get on the show.
And of course, I’ll give you guys a call if I get on.
Marji, I think it’s because you like James and I think as his power has grown he’s grown to be a jerk.
What?
Do you all know that I like James :- )
Have to agree though - his power overtaking his common sense.